Starling Tribune - Special Edition – The Flash Mid-Season 3 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #132

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Starling Tribune - Special Edition – The Flash Mid-Season 3 (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode: “Flashpoint” [Season 3 Episode 1]

Air date: 4 Oct 2016

Director: Jesse Warn

Writers: Andrew Kreisberg (story & teleplay); Brooke Roberts (teleplay); Greg Berlanti (story)

Recap:http://www.cbr.com/the-flash-recap-flashpoint-comes-with-consequences/

Episode: “Paradox” [Season 3 Episode 2]

Air date: 11 Oct 2016

Director: Ralph Hemecker

Writers: Aaron Helbing and Todd Helbing

Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-2

Episode: “Magenta” [Season 3 Episode 3]

Air date: 18 Oct 2016

Director: Armen V. Kevorkian

Writers: Judalina Neira and David Kob

Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-3

Episode: “The New Rogues” [Season 3 Episode 4]

Air date: 25 Oct 2016

Director: Stefan Pleszczynski

Writers: Benjamin Raab and Deric A. Hughes

Recap:http://www.ew.com/recap/the-flash-season-3-episode-4

Episode: “Monster” [Season 3 Episode 5]

Air date: 1 Nov 2016

Director: C. Kim Miles

Writer: Zack Stentz

Recap:http://collider.com/the-flash-recap-monster/

Episode: “Shade” [Season 3 Episode 6]

Air date: 15 Nov 2016

Director: J.J. Makaro

Writers: Emily Silver and David Kob

Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/16/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-shade-/

Episode: “Killer Frost” [Season 3 Episode 7]

Air date: 22 Nov 2016

Director: Kevin Smith

Writers: Andrew Kreisberg & Brooke Roberts (teleplay); Judalina Neira (story)

Recap:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/22/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-killer-frost/

Episode: “Invasion!” [Season 3 Episode 8]

Air date: 29 Nov 2016

Director: Dermott Downs

Writers: Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (teleplay); Greg Berlanti & Andrew Kreisberg (story)

Recap: http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/11/30/the-flashrecap-with-spoilers-invasion-/

Episode: “The Present” [Season 3 Episode 9]

Air date: 6 Dec 2016

Director: Rachel Talalay

Writers: Lauren Certo (teleplay); Aaron Helbing & Todd Helbing (story) Recap:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/12/07/the-flash-recap-with-spoilers-the-present/

Weekly Ratings

THE FLASH

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Flashpoint 4-Oct-16 3.17

02 Paradox 11-Oct-16 2.80

03 Magenta 18-Oct-16 2.67

04 The New Rogues 25-Oct-16 2.80

05 Monster 1-Nov-16 2.77

06 Shade 15-Nov-16 3.01

07 Killer Frost 22-Nov-16 2.95

08 Invasion! 29-Nov-16 4.15

09 What We Leave Behind 7-Dec-16 1.94

10 Borrowing Problems From The Future 24-Jan-17

ARROW

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating

01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89

02 The Recruits 12-Oct-16 1.94

03 A Matter Of Trust 19-Oct-16 1.79

04 Penance 26-Oct-16 1.87

05 Human Target 2-Nov-16 1.61

06 So It Begins 9-Nov-16 1.95

07 Vigilante 16-Nov-16 1.86

08 Invasion 30-Nov-16 3.55

09 The Present 6-Dec-16 3.14

10 Who Are You TBD

11 Second Chances TBD

12 Bratva TBD

13 Spectre Of The Gun TBD

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

  • Flashpoint
    • Barry spends 3 months in alt-reality
      • He’s a CSI, lives with parents, not a part of Iris’s life
      • Joe drinks a lot, bad at job, and not part of Barry’s life
      • Wally is Kid Flash
      • Cisco is rich; made Wally’s outfit; doesn’t want to be part of crime fighting team because he got a vibrating hand through his ribs
      • Caitlin is an eye doctor for kids
      • The Rival is a speedster that gives Wally a lot of trouble; Barry wants to help
      • Barry keeps Eobard Thawne in a cage; Eobard tells Barry that things will get bad
      • When Barry uses powers, the memories from old life start to disappear
      • Wally gets hurt; prompts Barry to go back
      • Eobard makes Barry tell him to kill his mother
      • Eobard knows Barry messed up timeline when they go back
      • First change - Iris and Joe don’t talk
      • Alchemy debuts
      • For all of the hype - lasts 1 episode
    • Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts

  • Barry Allen:
    • Selfish - goes back and saves Mom
    • Tries to go back again - gets schooled by OG Flash - Earth 3’s Jay Garrick
    • Raked over the coals by Cisco and Caitlin/Killer Frost about Flashpoint
    • Sees future - Savitar kills Iris; now tempted to be obsessed with changing future
    • Throws stone into Speed Force
    • Signs Iris’s name to lease without telling her first
  • Iris West
    • Barry admits there is no Flash without her
    • When will she get the chance to be a kickass reporter?
    • Gives him a pep talk about he’s not a god and that he needs to be the leader
  • Joe West
    • Has to repair things with Iris
    • Gets a girlfriend
    • Reluctant to let Wally train
  • Cisco Ramon
    • Dante died in car accident because of Flashpoint
    • Angry at Barry because he wouldn’t go save Dante and then because Dante alive before Flashpoint
    • Due to Flashpoint has better gear and control over powers
    • Accidentally messes with timeline during Invasion; understands Barry more
    • Stone uses his memories of Dante to release Savitar; Caitlin talks him down
  • Caitlin Snow
    • Gets powers due to Flashpoint
    • Mother tells her that if she uses power, she will lose control
    • Uses powers to question one of Alchemy’s goons; kidnaps Julian; wants Alchemy to take her powers
    • Uses Cisco’s cuffs to suppress powers
    • Makes it snow
  • Wally West
    • Jealous/frustrated that Jesse got speed powers and not him
    • Wants to be a hero
    • Gets activated by Alchemy
    • Is really, really fast
    • Given a suit and made part of team at Christmas
  • HR Wells
    • From Earth-19
    • Not a genius; is a writer, more of an idea person
    • Likes coffee and talking a lot
    • Trains Wally behind everyone’s back
  • Julian
    • CSI that appears after Barry fixes Flashpoint
    • Can’t stand Barry
    • Blacks out when he’s Alchemy
    • Lets team hook his brain to box so they can talk to Savitar
    • Spent money finding stone; releases Savitar
    • Joins the Christmas party
    • Made Barry resign to protect Caitlin; after Alchemy reveal, tells Barry to come back
  • Dr. Alchemy
    • Appears after Flashpoint
    • Gives people who had powers in Flashpoint back their powers
  • Savitar
    • God of Speed
    • Only Barry, Jay, and Wally can see him
    • Prediction: one will fall, one will betray, one suffer fate worse than death
    • “I am the future, Flash” or “I am the Future Flash”
    • Barry’s future self trapped Savitar in eternity; the Rise of his Vengeance has begun
  • Other Villains
    • Magenta
    • Mirror Master and the Top

ARROW NEWS:

  1. Arrow Tragedy Will Push Felicity to a Darker, 'Morally Questionable' Place (Date: 11 Dec 2016)
    Wendy Mericle discussed Felicity with TVline.com. “One thing Felicity is not going to do, I can tell you for sure, is blame Oliver. She recognizes the manipulations that have led to this situation,” said Wendy Mericle, “Felicity has set her sights on Prometheus. This season we have said we’re going to take her to a darker place, and you’re seeing the genesis of the reason why, right here.”
    Link:http://tvline.com/2016/12/11/arrow-season-5-felicity-spoilers-billy-malone-death/
  2. ARROW, SUPERGIRL, FLASH Go Retro In BATMAN '66 Style Animated Credits (Date: 12 Dec 2016)
    Fans have been pointing out similarities between Green Arrow and Batman since the 40s, when Ollie was parking his Arrowcar in his Arrowcave. Now, the Emerald Archer is following in the Dark Knight's footsteps one more time, and he's bringing the rest of CW's DC-Verse with him in this Arrow credit sequence, animated in the style of the Batman '66 TV credits by YouTube user Dave Jones.
    Link:http://www.newsarama.com/32339-arrow-supergirl-and-the-flash-go-retro-in-batman-66-style-animated-credits.html
  3. Stephen Amell Uses Batman Begins To Explain An Arrow Season 5 Plot Point (Date: 14 Dec 2016)
    The CW's Arrow showrunner Wendy Mericle recently talked about the direction of the Susan Williams plot thread on Arrow, saying that the reporter hasn't let up on trying to prove that Oliver Queen was living and operating out of Russia during the five years he was supposedly stranded on a deserted island. In trying to explain the story, series star Stephen Amell turned to a familiar superhero staple for audiences: Batman Begins. "Susan appears to be up to no good, but in reality, she's just following a very interesting story," Amell told reporters during a set visit back in November. "I mean, the mayor of the town where she's a reporter was clearly not on an island for five consecutive years -- which, by the way, I think it's about time we did that. I always think back to the first Nolan Batman, where Ra's al Ghul says to him 'The world is too small a place for someone like Bruce Wayne to disappear.' Even if [Oliver] wasn't as famous -- and he wasn't -- he did perish in a very famous incident in our story. I always thought when he was in Hong Kong that someone would stop him and be like, 'Hey, you look like Oliver Queen!' but it didn't happen."
    Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/12/14/stephen-amell-uses-batman-begins-to-explain-an-arrow-season-5-pl/
  4. Hollywood's 50 Favorite Female Characters (Date: 09 Dec 2016)
    For THR's latest intra-industry poll, the editors asked Hollywood professionals — actors, writers, directors and others — to take an online survey of their favorite fictional female characters. More than 1,800 participated — twice as many women as men — but the results proved there isn't such a great divide between the sexes after all, at least when it comes to what types of females we enjoy watching on screens. #15 is Felicity Smoak - Felicity was supposed to be a minor character, but her chemistry with Oliver Queen made her a fan favorite. By season two of The CW's adaptation of the DC comic, she was a regular player. "Felicity has developed over the course of the series," says Rickards. "She's from a regular world. She's relatable, honest and grounded. But she's not boring."
    Link:http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/lists/50-best-female-characters-entertainment-industry-survey-results-951483/item/felicity-smoak-arrow-50-favorite-female-characters-951539

GENERAL DC TV NEWS

  1. THE FLASH Set To Introduce Justice League Detroit Member Gypsy For The Second Half Of Season 3 (Date: 11 Dec 2016)
    The Flash will introduce another DC hero to lend Barry Allen and friends a hand for the remaining season 3 episodes. During a new installment of The CW’s Fan Feast, actor Carlos Valdes (Vibe) confirmed that Gypsy/Cindy Reynolds will be introduced at some point when the show returns in January. “There’s going to be a new visitor to our world named Gypsy,” said Valdes. "DC Comics fans will be familiar with Gypsy. She is going to be coming in our world and Vibe will definitely get to learn some new skills as part of getting to know her. So I’m excited to see how that plays out.” Based on Valdes' comments, it's safe to assume that they'll be going with the New 52 incarnation of the character, who was a runaway from another dimension.
    Link:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/the_flash/the-flash-set-to-introduce-justice-league-detroit-member-gypsy-for-the-a147449
  2. ‘The Flash’ Casts ‘Sleepy Hollow’ Star Jessica Camacho to Play Gypsy (Exclusive) (Date: 14 Dec 2016)
    Gypsy is coming to “The Flash,” and she will be played by “Sleepy Hollow” actress Jessica Camacho, TheWrap has learned exclusively.
    Link:http://www.thewrap.com/the-flash-casts-jessica-camacho-to-play-gypsy/
  3. Protests end Wonder Woman's fight for equality at United Nations (Date: 12 Dec 2016)
    A United Nations spokesman said the character's role at the 193-member state organization would end on Friday despite plans for Wonder Woman to be used in an empowerment campaign for women and girls into 2017. The move came after the Oct. 21 appointment of the superhero to fight for gender equality sparked heavy criticism, with nearly 45,000 people signing an online petition asking U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon to reconsider selection of the character. "Although the original creators may have intended Wonder Woman to represent a strong and independent 'warrior' woman with a feminist message, the reality is that the character's current iteration is that of a large breasted, white woman of impossible proportions," the petition read. Dozens of U.N. employees protested at the U.N. headquarters in New York City on the day of the appointment when Diane Nelson, president of DC Entertainment, said the Wonder Woman campaign would feature various initiatives "over the course of the next year." The U.N. did not provide further details as to why the Wonder Woman campaign was ending this week but spokesman Jeffrey Brez said campaigns using fictional characters often lasted no longer than a few months.
    Link:http://www.reuters.com/article/us-united-nations-women-wonder-woman-idUSKBN1412N9?il=0

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Supergirl Mid-Season 2!

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