Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Legacy (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast) #123

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Starling Tribune - Season 5 Edition – Legacy (A CW Network Arrow Television Show Fan Podcast)

The Official Arrow Podcast of the Gonna Geek Network

Episode: “Legacy” [Season 5 Episode 1]

Air Date: Wednesday, October 5th, 2016

Director: James Bamford

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0051466/?ref_=tt_ov_dr

The stunt coordinator turned director | 5x Arrow - last season’s “Brotherhood” and “Code of Silence,” next week’s “The Recruits” and is slated to direct episode 5.8

Writers: Greg Berlanti - story by and developed by credit

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0075528/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

Executive producer of Arrow, The Flash, Legends of Tomorrow, and Supergirl (aka “The Berlantiverse)

Marc Guggenheim - story by and teleplay by credit

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0973233/?ref_=tt_ov_wr

Executive producer of Arrow, Legends of Tomorrow | 16x teleplay Arrow | 12x writer Arrow | 6x Legends of Tomorrow

Andrew Kreisberg - developed by credit

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1132610/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr3

Arrow - 10x teleplay, 2x written | Flash - 5x teleplay, 3x written | 2x Legends of Tomorrow

Wendi Mericle - teleplay by credit

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1355890/?ref_=ttfc_fc_wr5

Executive producer - Arrow | 19x Arrow (writer)

Weekly Ratings

Episode 15: Rating of 1.89. This was down a bit from 2.19 for the season 4 finale and 2.67 for the season 4 premiere!

3 October 2016

Monday

Supergirl
(No Ep.)

Premiere Oct 10th

4 October 2016

Tuesday

Flash (Ep. 3.01)

“Flashpoint”
After preventing Eobard Thawne from killing Nora Allen, Barry returns with Eobard to the present and imprisons him in a cage that dampens his speed.

5 October 2016

Arrow (Ep. 5.01)
"Legacy"
Oliver is distracted from his new duties as mayor by continuing as Green Arrow alone, while his old team members have gone their separate ways

6 October 2016

Legends Of Tomorrow

(No Ep.)

Premiere Oct 13th

7 October 2016

No DC on CW!!

No episode

Links for Other Shows
Arrow: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Arrow_episodes#Season_5_.282016.29
Flash: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_The_Flash_episodes#Season_3_.282016.29
Supergirl: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Supergirl_episodes

Episode # / Episode Title / Episode Air / Date / Rating
01 Legacy 5-Oct-16 1.89
02 The Recruits 5-Oct-16
03 A Matter Of Trust 5-Oct-16
04 Penance 5-Oct-16
05 Human Target TBA
06 So It Begins TBA
07 Vigilante TBA

Part 1: The Plot, Themes and Characters

What was the overall theme for this episode / What was the link to the ep. name
- It's a One Man Show i.e. very Ollie-centric
  - Legacy tie to Green Arrow’s legacy on the city and the legacy of the team continuing on (eventually)
  - Flashbacks to eventually show Ollie become Bratva and man on island in pilot
- Laurel, Laurel, Laurel
Fight scenes & Stunts: Share your thoughts
- Anarky has nothing on Ollie this time around
  - Strange as he held his own with Thea last season
  - Arrow through the wrists
- Fight Club!
  - Ollie is brutal, the neck breaking move gets repeated
- Ollie fights with a chair
  - Neck break repeated to keep his secret.
  - No one goes to check on the mayor after this fight?
- Cops rumble with Church’s goons
- Helicopter fight
  - Did anyone else feel this cramped quarters fight felt very Bourne-like?
- Dark Archer Prometheus just owns the good guy cop
Flashbacks: Share your thoughts
- Anatoly!
- Fight Club Ollie is a badass
Ollie:
- He’s got sleeves! And the voice modulator is gone to be replaced with the Bale growl
- Killing again and with no regret it seems
  - Malcolm was right all along, that Green Arrow must do what’s necessary or not be out there at all
  - had Oliver killed Damien Darhk when he had the chance, Laurel would still be alive
  - Only Thea calls him on this which is strange
- Mayor Handsome
- Cool new gadgets!
  - Parachute arrow
- Diggle
  - Return to the Army doesn’t seem to be all he expected.
  - Thinks it's a good idea to rebuild the team
- Thea
  - Wants to be normal and really resists wearing the Speedy gear until she has no choice.
- Felicity
  - Everything seems good for her now
  - What is her job exactly?
  - She keeps Ollie and Thea’s loft?
- Curtis
  - Ready to become a full fledged member of Team Arrow
- Laurel
  - Her final words
    - “Please don’t let me be the last Canary. That way, a part of me will always be out there with you.”
  - Her ghost hangs over everyone - take a drink anytime someone says her name this week - at least 12 mentions
Quentin
- Back off the wagon, A drunk needs a reason to stay sober,” Lance notes, “and I’m fresh out, my friend.”
- Momma Smoak is in Heaven
- Finds his purpose in helping Ollie?
What’s the Flashpoint connection?

CURRENT EPISODE DC EASTER EGGS & POP CULTURE REFERENCES

Article: http://comicbook.com/2016/10/05/arrow-easter-eggs-and-dc-comics-references-in-legacy (comicbook.com)

Captain Pike - Is that a Star Trek reference? We really can't decide. Either way, per his nametag, that police captain talking to Thea in the opening scene appears to be "Captain Pike," the captain of the USS Enterprise immediately prior to James T. Kirk.
Lonnie Machin - A recurring villain from season four of Arrow, Lonnie Machin (the first baddie Oliver fights in season five) is better known to DC Comics fans as the antihero Anarky.
Wild Dog - the first new member of Team Arrow version 2.0 was introduced to the audience, in the form of Wild Dog, a hockey mask-wearing, gun-toting vigilante who was inspired by -- and then shot in the kneecap by -- Green Arrow. The character first appeared in Wild Dog #1 in 1987, making him one of the first new superheroes created following Crisis on Infinite Earths. Created by Road to Perdition writer Max Allan Collins, "his super power is guns."
Konstantin Kovar - Konstantin Kovar is the father of Leonid Kovar, better known as Red Star. In the comics, Konstantin originally wasn't a villain, but a relatively benign figure: an archaeologist who unearthed a nasty bit of business that gave his son powers. But Red Star himself, a loyal communist in the Soviet era, was occasionally a problem for the other heroes before he turned his life around. Eventually, he would become a bad guy in service of the Soviet Union -- something that might make him an interesting figure going forward in case Anatoly Knyazev's comic book destiny of becoming the cybernetically-enhanced "KGBeast" is to become part of Arrow's story.
Tobias Church - Church's nickname is apparently Charon, the ferryman of Hades from Greek mythology. There is a Charon in DC Comics, although he shares basically nothing in common with this version. This is something that will be repeated again in the episode: choosing a historical/mythological meaning instead of a contemporary/comics one.
Vigilante - "Mr. Ski Goggles," as Felicity calls him, is actually Vigilante, a DC Comics antihero created by Marv Wolfman and George Perez. Perez provided the police sketch seen on Felicity's computer screen. Created during Marv Wolfman's time on the New Teen Titans, Vigilante in the comics is a former New York district attorney who's set on the path of justice after hsi family is killed by the mob. The CW describes him similarly: Chase is "Star City’s new district attorney and an ally of Mayor Oliver Queen (Stephen Amell), who aims to clean up the streets through the legal system."
Hub City and Bludhaven - According to Detective Malone, before he made his way to Star City, apparently he haunted Hub City -- the home of The Question -- and Bludhaven, the home of Nightwing.
Ross Paints - Is that a little bit of free advertising for comic book artist and painter Alex Ross on the side of the truck Tobias Church and his goons are driving to their crime spree?
Bertinelli - Whoever the head of the Bertinelli crime family is now that Helena has killed her father, he makes an appearance here -- only to be immediately killed by Tobias Church's men.

ARROW NEWS:

Arrow Showrunner breaks down all those new S5 characters (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
Executive producer and showrunner Wendy Mericle gave an in-depth look into some of season 5’s new characters in an interview with CBR.com. Included in the interview are discussions about Ragman, Artemis, Wild Dog, and Mr. Terrific. Mericle drops hints about Vigilante and Prometheus. When asked about Katie Cassidy, Mericle says, “Nobody ever really dies on ‘Arrow.’ She’s going to be kind of across the shows, and we’ll see her in the premiere, and we’ll see her later in the season as well.”
Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrow-showrunner-breaks-down-all-those-new-s5-characters/
Did Arrow just hint at a Flashpoint connection? (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
Producers have stated that Diggle will be impacted by Flashpoint. On the season premiere, Diggle said he has “the worst case of deja vu ever.” The article speculates that perhaps Diggle’s wife and child could be erased.
Link:http://comicbook.com/dc/2016/10/05/did-arrow-just-hint-at-a-flashpoint-connection-/
Arrow’ Producer: How Oliver will juggle being mayor and Green Arrow in season 5 (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
In an interview with Variety, Wendy Mericle discussed how poorly Ollie is as a mayor and Ollie’s time with the Bratva, but she reveals a hint about Diggle - “And yeah, Flashpoint will have an impact on him, especially in respect to his family life.”
Linkhttp://variety.com/2016/tv/news/arrow-season-5-premiere-teaser-spoilers-1201878902/
Arrow Season 5: Who is Wild Dog? (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
com goes into the history of Wild Dog. Covering his first appearance in “Wild Dog #1” in 1987 to his Booster Gold run. Wild Dog was created by Max Allan Collins, who stated that Wild Dog’s “super power is guns.” Wild Dog is star athlete Jack Wheeler, who had to become a mechanic after an injury. He became Wild Dog after the woman he loved was gun down.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/05/arrow-season-5-who-is-wild-dog-/
Arrow Season 5 Premiere Ratings Released (Date: 6 Oct 2016)
Last October, The CW's Arrow opened its fourth season with 2.67 million viewers; however, on Wednesday, only 1.9 million viewers tuned-in for the show's fifth season premiere, which is a drop of 29%, and it pulled in a paltry 0.7 rating in the key 18-49 demographic, which is a decline of 36 percent from a year ago.
Link:http://comicbook.com/2016/10/06/arrow-season-5-premiere-ratings-released/
Arrow: Stephen Amell talks legacy, Russia, and why Prometheus is the right villain for season 5 (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
In an interview with IGN, Stephen Amell discusses season 5. When asked about Prometheus, Stephen said, “Prometheus is a villain that is a byproduct of Oliver Queen being Green Arrow. That's something that you get to do once you're five years into a show. In a lot of ways, I think the most success that we've had with a villain, in my mind, was with Manu Bennett as Deathstroke. One of the reasons is because we got to tell a really personal story. We got to tell the story, sort of the dueling time of their time on the island and then their time in the Starling City at the time. Because Prometheus is a villain of Oliver's creation, so to speak, I feel like it will bring in that personal element as well.”
Link:http://www.ign.com/articles/2016/10/05/arrow-stephen-amell-talks-legacy-russia-and-why-prometheus-is-the-right-villain-for-season-5
Spartan’s new helmet and a Diggle/Oliver-centric episode of Arrow is coming (Date: 02 Oct 2016)
Bleeding Cool - Picture of Diggle in his new helmet. According to the article, the fourth episode will focus on Diggle and Ollie.
Link:http://www.bleedingcool.com/2016/10/02/spartans-new-helmet-diggle-oliver-centric-episode-arrow-coming/

ARROW CAST & CREW INTERVIEWS

Arrow’s Kellum on his gradual evolution into Mister Terrific (Date: 05 Oct 2016)
In an interview with CBR. com, Echo Kellum discusses Curtis’s evolution into Mr. Terrific. He talks about Curtis’s background is different than the others - he isn’t jaded and doesn’t have a tragic past. He mentions that the show will explore Curtis’s marriage and hints about how he, Cisco, and Felicity will interact during the crossover.
Link:http://www.cbr.com/arrows-kellum-on-his-gradual-evolution-into-mister-terrific/
Chad L. Coleman talks playing a villain in “Arrow” (Date: 04 Oct 2016)
Chad L. Coleman stopped by the KTLA Morning News to talk about his role in “Arrow.” “No more Mr. Nice Tyrese.” “Finally hired an ugly guy”
Link:http://ktla.com/2016/10/04/chad-l-coleman-talks-playing-a-villain-in-arrow/

DC TV NEWS

Meet your new Superman! Tyler Hoechlin talks taking flight and wearing tights on ‘Supergirl’ (Date: 03 Oct 2016)
In an interview with EW, Tyler discusses how he got the role, his influences, and working with the cast.
Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/03/supergirl-superman-tyler-hoechlin-season-2?xid=entertainment-weekly_socialflow_twitter
The Flash boss previews seismic changes as a result of Flashpoint (Date: 03 Oct 2016)
In an article with EW, Andrew Kreisberg discusses Flashpoint. The season will be more about the consequences of Flashpoint than the event itself. Andrew states, “That’s one of the things that we’re attempting to do is have the pitfalls of time travel be long-lasting and that some things can be fixed, and then some things are broken forever.”
Link:http://www.ew.com/article/2016/10/03/flash-season-3-spoilers-flashpoint
Flash Honest Trailer (Date: 04 Oct 2016)
Honest trailer by Screen Junkies is hilarious
Link:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvUXbzxxdo0 ARROW CAST & CREW NEWS

NEXT EPISODE

Promo for Next Week:
Article:https://www.comicbookmovie.com/dc_tv/arrow/the-emerald-archer-assembles-a-new-team-in-the-promo-for-arrow-season-a145727

Episode: “The Recruits” [Season 5 Episode 2]

Air Date: Wednesday, October 12, 2016

Summary: Oliver recruits Curtis, Wild Dog and Evelyn Sharp for his team, but his training methods prove to be too much for some to handle. In flashbacks, Oliver continues his initiation into the Bratva.

Director: James Bamford

Writers: Greg Berlanti, Marc Guggenheim, Andrew Kreisberg, Speed Weed, Beth Schwartz

IMDB: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt5584142/?ref_=ttfc_fc_tt

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